Virtual Meeting Highlights:
Attendance was taken and the group reviewed ground rules for working together. There are 19 ground rules all having to do with working together, being respectful and considerate of each other.
Special guests today included State Senators and Representatives who gave presentations on bills in progress and then had Q&A.
Presentation by Senators Pedersen and Dhingra
Senator Jamie Pedersen and Senator Manka Dhingra discussed three draft bills that will cover the process and conditions under which decertification of police officers will occur when bills are passed. Bills will be presented in the next session starting in January. All three bills work together. The bills also cover peer intervention training, how violation of protocol is reported, how it empowers one to report and be accountable. There was discussion about prosecutors and officers needing a culture change.
The Governor wanted to know what will happen if an information request is not fully complied with and also if the bills will work retroactively. It was clarified that the penalty on a local police department for not complying with an info request is $10,000. Additionally, the bills will work retroactively.
Kimberly Mosolf wanted to confirm that anyone can bring an issue to the Commission - law enforcement folks as well as citizens. The answer was yes.
Livio De La Cruz liked all the bills and said they needed to keep the families affected in mind.
Waldo Waldron-Ramsey also wanted to confirm that the bills will work retroactively.
James Schrimpsher said it was important that there was consistency/standards throughout the State. Also that the term limits on commissioners should be reviewed. Currently they are 6 years but maybe it should be 2 or 3. Also he said there was an elected sheriffs loophole that the Senators should look at. He said there tends to be an urban/rural divide and that Senators could look at what the State of Oregon is doing.
Puao Savusa wanted to know if the bills applied to officer conduct when they were off duty.
Monisha Harrell gave an example of how an officer can/did intimidate citizens that brought a complaint against him. Also wanted to confirm that the bills applied to officer conduct while off duty. It was explained that every officer in the State who must be certified to work will be covered under these bills.
Drafts of the bills were distributed and all were asked to review and provide feedback.
Discussion lasted one hour. Comments in chat box were to be forwarded to Senators. The group took a ten-minute break.
Presentation by Reps. Entenman, Goodman, Johnson, Lekanoff, Lovick, Ramos, and Thai
Representatives Entenman, Goodman, Johnson, Lekanoff, Lovick, Ramos and Thai were introduced. They too discussed policing bills they were working on, which are being drafted and should be available for review in December. They then opened it up for Q&A.
Chris Jordan said that we needed to focus on the demilitarization of the police force (equipment, training, de-escalation tactics, etc). Look at hiring from schools as a career path, not just ex-military.
Sanetta Hunter said that they should make sure they get community input. They are meeting/have met with police unions, youth groups, scholars, WA for Black Lives, and met with community advocates - but not individual citizens.
Jim Bloss wanted to know when the bills will be ready and was told in December.
The Governor wanted to know about tear gas. He was told they are no longer using tear gas and that this was one of the many banned substances in the new bills. What they do use is pepper spray.
Waldo Waldron-Ramsey said it can be difficult for prosecutors to bring charges against the police.
Puao Savusa wanted limited use of force covered, giving alternatives for situations.
Livio De La Cruz said there was a need for folks to change culture.
Teresa Taylor said that funding for trainers is an issue. Also officer support for PTSD, etc.
Jordan Chaney said you need to consider the affected family and address the psychological aspect. Need to communicate to victim’s family, possibly provide compensation fund for grief counselling. Need to center the community in these situations.
Procedural justice approach. Treat a person like a human being. Honor their dignity.
This section of the meeting ended at 4:25pm.
The last part of the meeting focused on how they were going to manage the last three meetings scheduled. The staff wanted to know how they can help the Task Force tackle the recommendation phase. The subject for the next meeting is Legal Issues and Prosecution issues. The last two meetings will focus on recommendations to be developed by the Task Force. These meetings are to last 4 hours each. The staff shared a draft structure - a worksheet that the Task Force could use to organize ideas, provide input and then structure their discussions from. The staff wanted to know if this worksheet could be helpful and used for these last two meetings. The Task Force voted to review the worksheet and use it as a guide for discussion.
The meeting ran until a little after 5pm.
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